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		<title>By: Genaro Alfandre</title>
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		<dc:creator>Genaro Alfandre</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Jan 2010 10:56:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am looking for a good gold trade forum, any suggestion anybody? I mean a palce where individuals would sell and buy gold privately?</description>
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		<title>By: 4Rs</title>
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		<dc:creator>4Rs</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Jan 2010 06:32:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>*Reads his comment again and laughs at his conspiracy theory....

My apologies Petra....Ok a bit far fetched  I suppose for some, but they sure seem to be throwing money around still for a country that is in recession; Trillion here; Trillion there and everywhere....

Back to the topic....

GOLD - &quot;Yes you are right&quot; gold is another option for the time being and shows to be very stable.  I can see why investors would be rather keen on investing in gold for the time being, just be cautious I say don&#039;t just rely on it and expect to be safe.

I must admit though I&#039;m from Australia so I have entered this discussion with my head up high and with certain cheek.

** Throws another shrimp on the BarB


4Rs</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>*Reads his comment again and laughs at his conspiracy theory&#8230;.</p>
<p>My apologies Petra&#8230;.Ok a bit far fetched  I suppose for some, but they sure seem to be throwing money around still for a country that is in recession; Trillion here; Trillion there and everywhere&#8230;.</p>
<p>Back to the topic&#8230;.</p>
<p>GOLD &#8211; &#8220;Yes you are right&#8221; gold is another option for the time being and shows to be very stable.  I can see why investors would be rather keen on investing in gold for the time being, just be cautious I say don&#8217;t just rely on it and expect to be safe.</p>
<p>I must admit though I&#8217;m from Australia so I have entered this discussion with my head up high and with certain cheek.</p>
<p>** Throws another shrimp on the BarB</p>
<p>4Rs</p>
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		<title>By: Petra</title>
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		<dc:creator>Petra</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Jan 2010 04:37:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for your comments. While I respect your opinion, I don&#039;t agree with your conspiracy theories about the market crash, etc. As for gold, I wasn&#039;t advocating buying but simply laying out the options for those who do want to invest in gold. While gold has had a good decade, so did many other commodities (copper for example has seen similar gains to gold).  
Gold is a good hedge against the dollar; as such the short term outlook for gold seems less certain. While I believe the commodities bull market will not be over for another few years, I wouldn&#039;t want to make any particular bet on gold in either direction.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for your comments. While I respect your opinion, I don&#8217;t agree with your conspiracy theories about the market crash, etc. As for gold, I wasn&#8217;t advocating buying but simply laying out the options for those who do want to invest in gold. While gold has had a good decade, so did many other commodities (copper for example has seen similar gains to gold).<br />
Gold is a good hedge against the dollar; as such the short term outlook for gold seems less certain. While I believe the commodities bull market will not be over for another few years, I wouldn&#8217;t want to make any particular bet on gold in either direction.</p>
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		<title>By: 4Rs</title>
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		<dc:creator>4Rs</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 Jan 2010 04:02:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>GOLD.....me personally, NEVER !!

Land....New Era, YES !!   (Think population growth.  It would be fair to say that the &quot;worlds&quot; population is growing ).

My opinion on the Stock market......the drive for profit will always overturn the drive for efficiency, not to mention, corruption (insider trading and collaboration btw major companies).  My opinion honestly, this crash was done with every intent.   I firmly believe it was purely motivated by oil.  The americans created a stalemate for the oil rich who were making too much money...crash the market, arabs make less money which they don&#039;t need anyway,  which obviously money made from selling oil was re-invested in share market.  Obviously oil was out of the equation, lol.  Arabs couldn&#039;t lift oil price as world wide recession would of created a sharp drop in demand which in turn effects price, for which then they would have to cut supply.  The American plan worked...arabs didn&#039;t have to drop production or price and obviously Americans are happy paying less.  The world is dependant on how America does, up or down everything eventually is bought with the $US but for the sake of stopping arab nations gaining even more power and wealth this was necessary.  

This crash in no way affected The Vatican or The Church of England.


It has to be noted that if you purchase land,  things to look for is &quot;WATER&quot; and some basic infrastructure....you might even find GOLD or other MINERALS within the land, lol.  

Main Metropolitan fringes/outskirts should also considered as cities expand outwards, never jumping but joining onto existing infrastructure.

If at anytime a country like Australia for example wanted to sell off it&#039;s gold reserves at these record prices, it could, knowing that is in a plentiful supply.  

GOLD is but a mere illusion, a form of control, driven by countries collaborating together, YES, Price fixing if you will.  

GOLD is controlled by countries not companies so, this poses a risk for smaller investors.

GOLD is known as a last resort for &quot;everyone&quot; this is why caution is advised.

Demand for gold for it&#039;s &quot;actual&quot; uses are very low. 

If my memory serves me well you cannot just sell a countries reserves unless it is approved by I.M.F (USA...laughs), please correct me if I&#039;m wrong.  

Ok, lets just say that stock market crashes, &quot;present&quot;, majority investors,  which still have money left buy gold; Demand goes up this sets price high; investors invest; country sells large amounts of stockpiles; price &quot;crashes&quot; below expectations; buyer confidence tumbles; no demand.

This still doesn&#039;t affect countries which have reserves because it just sits there, eventually it will go back up over time.

Who buys the GOLD when it crashes ? &quot;Countries&quot; that don&#039;t produce any, countries who wish to follow the leaders or wish to use tax payers money or China (*sarcasm), countries or entities which have  great wealth (The Church of England, The Vatican and Saudi Arabia, Israel not included as they don&#039;t really need to invest in something that would be looked at as a form of  an ancient bartering tool, I&#039;m sure they have &quot;bigger fish to fry&quot; such as technology for gathering information for espionage purposes another form of control or to have &quot;the upper hand&quot;.

My prediction is gold will hit it&#039;s peak at $2.5k to $3k US an ounce.  At this price you can see how countries could be tempted to sell off reserves.

&quot;Governments of Australia, Switzerland, the Netherlands, Argentina and Belgium, as well as Britain, have sold gold reserves in recent years, arguing that gold represented too large and risky a proportion of their total reserves&quot;

source - http://www.theaustralian.com.au/business/markets/bank-of-england-admits-its-gold-reserves-arent-in-mint-conditio/story-e6frg916-1111114538342

^^ meaning - They have a lot of GOLD undocumented in stockpiles ready  to replenish stocks as soon as it crashes.  Not one country will expose the truth about undocumented stockpiles obviously as this could affect it&#039;s curtain of illusion.



some wiki info - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gold#Production

** All GOLD reserves mentioned are documented only.   IMHO undocumented gold is plentiful.


Disclaimer :   All comments above are based purely on my opinions please feel free to voice your opinions and predictions.                          


Thank you for this chance and for this most wonderful site,  Petra.

4Rs
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>GOLD&#8230;..me personally, NEVER !!</p>
<p>Land&#8230;.New Era, YES !!   (Think population growth.  It would be fair to say that the &#8220;worlds&#8221; population is growing ).</p>
<p>My opinion on the Stock market&#8230;&#8230;the drive for profit will always overturn the drive for efficiency, not to mention, corruption (insider trading and collaboration btw major companies).  My opinion honestly, this crash was done with every intent.   I firmly believe it was purely motivated by oil.  The americans created a stalemate for the oil rich who were making too much money&#8230;crash the market, arabs make less money which they don&#8217;t need anyway,  which obviously money made from selling oil was re-invested in share market.  Obviously oil was out of the equation, lol.  Arabs couldn&#8217;t lift oil price as world wide recession would of created a sharp drop in demand which in turn effects price, for which then they would have to cut supply.  The American plan worked&#8230;arabs didn&#8217;t have to drop production or price and obviously Americans are happy paying less.  The world is dependant on how America does, up or down everything eventually is bought with the $US but for the sake of stopping arab nations gaining even more power and wealth this was necessary.  </p>
<p>This crash in no way affected The Vatican or The Church of England.</p>
<p>It has to be noted that if you purchase land,  things to look for is &#8220;WATER&#8221; and some basic infrastructure&#8230;.you might even find GOLD or other MINERALS within the land, lol.  </p>
<p>Main Metropolitan fringes/outskirts should also considered as cities expand outwards, never jumping but joining onto existing infrastructure.</p>
<p>If at anytime a country like Australia for example wanted to sell off it&#8217;s gold reserves at these record prices, it could, knowing that is in a plentiful supply.  </p>
<p>GOLD is but a mere illusion, a form of control, driven by countries collaborating together, YES, Price fixing if you will.  </p>
<p>GOLD is controlled by countries not companies so, this poses a risk for smaller investors.</p>
<p>GOLD is known as a last resort for &#8220;everyone&#8221; this is why caution is advised.</p>
<p>Demand for gold for it&#8217;s &#8220;actual&#8221; uses are very low. </p>
<p>If my memory serves me well you cannot just sell a countries reserves unless it is approved by I.M.F (USA&#8230;laughs), please correct me if I&#8217;m wrong.  </p>
<p>Ok, lets just say that stock market crashes, &#8220;present&#8221;, majority investors,  which still have money left buy gold; Demand goes up this sets price high; investors invest; country sells large amounts of stockpiles; price &#8220;crashes&#8221; below expectations; buyer confidence tumbles; no demand.</p>
<p>This still doesn&#8217;t affect countries which have reserves because it just sits there, eventually it will go back up over time.</p>
<p>Who buys the GOLD when it crashes ? &#8220;Countries&#8221; that don&#8217;t produce any, countries who wish to follow the leaders or wish to use tax payers money or China (*sarcasm), countries or entities which have  great wealth (The Church of England, The Vatican and Saudi Arabia, Israel not included as they don&#8217;t really need to invest in something that would be looked at as a form of  an ancient bartering tool, I&#8217;m sure they have &#8220;bigger fish to fry&#8221; such as technology for gathering information for espionage purposes another form of control or to have &#8220;the upper hand&#8221;.</p>
<p>My prediction is gold will hit it&#8217;s peak at $2.5k to $3k US an ounce.  At this price you can see how countries could be tempted to sell off reserves.</p>
<p>&#8220;Governments of Australia, Switzerland, the Netherlands, Argentina and Belgium, as well as Britain, have sold gold reserves in recent years, arguing that gold represented too large and risky a proportion of their total reserves&#8221;</p>
<p>source &#8211; <a href="http://www.theaustralian.com.au/business/markets/bank-of-england-admits-its-gold-reserves-arent-in-mint-conditio/story-e6frg916-1111114538342" rel="nofollow">http://www.theaustralian.com.au/business/markets/bank-of-england-admits-its-gold-reserves-arent-in-mint-conditio/story-e6frg916-1111114538342</a></p>
<p>^^ meaning &#8211; They have a lot of GOLD undocumented in stockpiles ready  to replenish stocks as soon as it crashes.  Not one country will expose the truth about undocumented stockpiles obviously as this could affect it&#8217;s curtain of illusion.</p>
<p>some wiki info &#8211; <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gold#Production" rel="nofollow">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gold#Production</a></p>
<p>** All GOLD reserves mentioned are documented only.   IMHO undocumented gold is plentiful.</p>
<p>Disclaimer :   All comments above are based purely on my opinions please feel free to voice your opinions and predictions.                          </p>
<p>Thank you for this chance and for this most wonderful site,  Petra.</p>
<p>4Rs<br />
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		<title>By: firewall programs</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Jan 2010 15:11:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It is awesome to see this blog is finally getting the attention that it totally deserves. Keep up the great work.</description>
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		<title>By: Buck McKeon</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 31 Dec 2009 07:11:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A seller asked </description>
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		<title>By: Petra</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Dec 2009 01:18:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sure, gold is not a value investment. But then again, not all investors are value investors and gold is unquestionably very popular in times of uncertainty and chaos. It&#039;s the safe haven quality, as well as being a hedge against inflation and the dollar, that makes gold appealing at particular times. However, gold doesn&#039;t create wealth, as say stocks (can) do. Over the very long term gold hasn&#039;t produced great returns.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sure, gold is not a value investment. But then again, not all investors are value investors and gold is unquestionably very popular in times of uncertainty and chaos. It&#8217;s the safe haven quality, as well as being a hedge against inflation and the dollar, that makes gold appealing at particular times. However, gold doesn&#8217;t create wealth, as say stocks (can) do. Over the very long term gold hasn&#8217;t produced great returns.</p>
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		<title>By: goldstandard</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Dec 2009 13:25:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Gold is not a value investment according to Graham, by the way. Intrinsic value is zero. It is being stored in vaults. It can not be used for anyting, or, more accurately, it can be replaced easily by other cheaper metals. It has got the value of perception, only.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Gold is not a value investment according to Graham, by the way. Intrinsic value is zero. It is being stored in vaults. It can not be used for anyting, or, more accurately, it can be replaced easily by other cheaper metals. It has got the value of perception, only.</p>
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